新加坡联合早报记者:去年中国领导人频繁访问周边国家,提出了新的周边外交理念与合作倡议,但周边地区仍然存在一些分歧和矛盾。请问您怎么看待中国与周边关系的前景?
Lianhe
Zaobao of Singapore: Last year, Chinese leaders
visited many neighboring countries and put forward new vision on China’s
neighborhood diplomacy and cooperation initiatives. But still there exist some
disputes and differences in China’s neighborhood. I would like to ask how do
you see China’s future relations with its neighbors?
李克强:你的中文就更标准了,但是还是需要再翻译一次。
Li
Keqiang: You speak mandarin even better. But
still we need the translation. I hope to have your understanding.
中国是个发展中国家,实现现代化是13亿人民的共同意志,这需要有和平稳定的周边和国际环境。我记得去年记者会快结束的时候,我说过,中国走和平发展道路的决心是坚定不移的,维护国家主权和领土完整的意志是不可动摇的。两者归结起来就是要维护稳定,为发展创造良好环境。
China
is still a developing country. To achieve modernization of the country
represents the common aspiration of the 1.3 billion Chinese people. This
requires a peaceful and stable neighboring and international environment. I
recall that approaching the end of last year’s press conference, I once said
that China has an abiding commitment to pursuing peaceful development. We also
have an unshakable will in safeguarding China’s sovereignty and territorial
integrity. These two points are both for the sake of upholding stability and
creating a favorable environment for China’s development.
早在60年前,中国和一些周边国家就共同倡导和平共处五项原则。四邻周边有时候难免有磕磕碰碰的情况,但是只要我们相互尊重、管控分歧、互利互惠,碰出的应该是和谐的声音,而不是刺耳的噪音。
As
early as 60 years ago, China and some of its neighbors had jointly initiated
the Five Principles of Peaceful
Coexistence. When neighbors interact with each other, it’s only natural
that sometimes they will run into problems of one kind or another. But as long
as they respect each other, properly manage differences and pursue mutual
benefit, there will be harmonious sounds instead of jarring noises.
你的问题让我回想起去年曾访问东盟国家。我当时到了越南,和越南领导人达成海上共同开发、陆上合作、金融合作三头并进的原则共识以后,也想听听民间的反应。我就在晚上趁工作之余,到了一家小店,那个女店主当时就认出了我,她说欢迎中国客人来。我想这也会给她带来生意吧。我就问她你怎么看邻国的关系?她说还是和平友好吧。和平友好、和平共处,是四邻百姓的共同愿望。我们需要一起努力,扩大利益交汇点,缩小矛盾点,这样就可以和睦相处,造福民众。
Your
question reminds me of my visit to some ASEAN countries last year. During my
visit in Vietnam, I reached principled consensus with the Vietnamese leaders
about China-Vietnam cooperation in maritime joint development, on the land and
in the financial sector. I was curious about how the ordinary people would
think about this. So later in the evening, I took some time out of the schedule
and visited a small local shop. The shopowner instantly recognized me and she
said that she would like to have more Chinese customers. They would bring more
businesses to her shop. I asked her how she thought about China’s relationship
with its neighbors. She said there should be peace and friendship. Peace,
friendship and peaceful co-existence, I believe, represent the common
aspirations of all people in China and its neighbors. As long as we all work
together to expand common interests and narrow differences, we can live with
each other in harmony, bringing greater benefits to our people.
路透社记者:中国经济去年增长7.7%。请问总理,您上任一年最大的挑战、最大的困难是什么?您觉得亟待解决的问题还有哪些?
Reuters:
China’s
economy grew at 7.7% last year. In the past year since you became Chinese
premier, what do you think is the biggest challenge and difficulty and what are
the pressing issues that need to be resolved?
李克强:我确实很佩服你们这些驻华记者,能这么流利地说中文。
Li
Keqiang: I truly admire all these resident
journalists of foreign media in China for speaking Chinese so well.
要说去年最大的挑战,那还是经济下行压力加大的挑战。中国的中央财政收入一度出现负增长,金融领域6月份还有所谓“钱荒”,银行间隔夜拆借利率一度超过了13%,而且用电量、货运量的增幅也大幅回落。国际上出现了一些舆论,说中国经济可能要硬着陆,还给出了指标,说增长可能只有3%到4%。而对我们来说,财政和货币政策运用空间又很有限,宏观调控确实面临多难选择。
The
biggest challenge last year was the increased downward pressure on our economy.
Central government revenue registered negative growth at one point. There was
the so-called “money squeeze” in the financial sector last June. Inter-bank
lending rate exceeded 13%. And there was a slump in the growth of electricity
consumption and cargo transport volume. There was this view in the
international community that the Chinese economy would suffer a hard landing
and China’s growth would drop to 3-4%. Moreover, we had only very limited room
for manoeuvre in carrying out fiscal and monetary policies, and we were faced
with multiple tough choices in exercising macro-control.
怎么办?遇万难还须放胆,破困局要用智慧。我们保持定力,创新宏观调控的思路和方式,明确了经济运行的合理区间,就是增长和就业不能越出下限,通胀不能突破上限,而且着力促改革、调结构,让市场发力。正是在以习近平同志为总书记的党中央领导下,经过全国人民的共同奋斗,我们顶住压力,实现了经济社会发展的主要预期目标。
Under
such conditions, what should we do? When confronted with mounting challenges,
one needs to show guts. To tackle a difficult situation, one needs to have
wisdom. We held our ground. We pursued creative thinking and ways in exercising
macro-control and set a proper range for China’s economic operation. That is to
say, we worked to ensure that GDP growth and employment would not slide below
the lower limit and inflation would not exceed the upper limit. We focused our
efforts on boosting reform and making structural adjustment to ensure that the
market will play a strong role. Under the leadership of the CPC Central Committee
with Comrade Xi Jinping as General Secretary and thanks to the concerted
efforts of the entire Chinese people, we faced the pressure down and met our
targets.
现在我们看的更多的是困难和问题。今年挑战依然严峻,而且可能会更加复杂。我们既要稳增长、保就业,又要防通胀、控风险,还要提质增效,治理污染,多重目标的实现需要找一个合理的平衡点,这可以说是高难度的动作。
Now
what is on top of our mind is the existing difficulties and problems. We will
confront serious challenges this year, and some may be even more complex. We
need to keep steady growth, ensure employment, avert inflation and defuse
risks. We also need to raise the quality and efficiency of China’s economic
development and tackle pollution. So we need to strike a proper balance amidst
all these goals and objectives. This is not going to be easy.
但凡事不患难而患无备。所谓磨好了斧子才能劈开柴。我想只要我们正视困难、直面挑战、趋利避害,就是遇事克难的成功之道。我们有去年应对经济下行的经历,中国经济又有着巨大的潜能和韧性,我们有能力也有条件使今年经济运行保持在合理区间。
But the
thing we have to fear is not the difficulty itself, but lack of preparedness,
just as only a sharpened axe can cut through firewood. We will face up to the
difficulties and challenges and make the most of the favorable conditions while
averting unfavorable ones. This holds the secret to our success. Moreover, we
gained good experience from handling the economic downturn last year, and the
Chinese economy has tremendous potential and resilience. So I believe we have
the ability and conditions to keep the economic operation within a proper range
this year.
中央电视台记者:推进简政放权是您在去年记者会和今年报告中特别强调的一点,在采访的时候我听到大家对这项改革有很多好评,也听到不少抱怨,比如说有的部门依然存在办事难现象,有的部门可能把次要的权放出去了,重要的权还留着。请问总理,关于简政放权的措施您认为怎样才能真正落到实处,要减到什么样的程度这项改革任务才算是基本完成了?
CCTV:
In
last year’s press conference and this year’s government work report, you laid
special stress on streamlining administration and delegating powers. In our
reporting activities we have heard much praise from the society about this
reform initiative. Yet at the same time we have also heard complaints among the
people that it is still difficult to get things done in some governmental
departments. And some governmental departments may have released some less
important powers, but still hold on to those more important ones. How to ensure
that this reform initiative will be fully implemented? And to what extent can
we say this reform task has been completed?
李克强:去年,中央政府把简政放权作为改革的“先手棋”,我们确实下了不小力气,到现在一年的时间,仅中央政府下放取消的审批事项就有416项。更重要的是它释放了一个强烈的信号,给企业松绑、让市场发力。结果企业找政府的少了,地方跑北京的少了。
Li
Keqiang: Last year, the Chinese government took
streamlining administration and delegating power as the top priority on its
reform agenda. With tremendous efforts, the central government has abolished or
delegated to lower-level governments 416 items subject to State Council review
and approval. This has sent out a very strong signal that we will loosen the
straitjacket over enterprises and let the market play a strong role. As a
result, fewer enterprises find it necessary to turn to the government and fewer
local governments find it necessary to turn to the central government.
有个统计数字可以表明这激发了市场的活力。去年新注册企业增长27.6%,其中私营企业新增30%,这是十多年来最高的。简政放权是激发市场活力、调动社会创造力的利器,是减少权力寻租、铲除腐败的釜底抽薪之策。党的十八届三中全会提出,要让市场在资源配置中发挥决定性作用和更好发挥政府作用,我想简政放权是重要的突破口、切入点。
This
reform initiative has tremendously boosted market dynamism as shown in the
following statistics: The number of newly registered businesses last year
increased by 27.6%, among which the number of newly registered private
businesses increased by 30%, the highest in over ten years. This shows that
streamlining administration and delegating power is a powerful tool in
energizing the market and stimulating social creativity. It is also the
fundamental solution for cutting rent-seeking behavior and uprooting
corruption. It was decided at the Third Plenum of the 18th CPC Central
Committee that the market will play a decisive role in allocating resources and
the government should better play its role. Streamlining administration and
delegating powers is an important starting point in this direction.
当然,放,并不是说政府就不管了,我们讲的是放管结合。要让政府有更多的精力来完善和创新宏观调控,尤其是加强事中事后的监管。对一些搞坑蒙拐骗、假冒伪劣、侵犯知识产权、蓄意污染环境、违背市场公平竞争原则的行为,要严加监管、严厉惩处。放管结合,要体现公平原则。
Delegation
of power does not mean that the government will stay out of everything. What we
need is both power delegation and tightened oversight. This way, the government
can have extra energy to focus on pursuing creative and better macro-control.
In particular, supervision over these delegated matters should be tightened
when these matters are being handled and after they have been handled. Such
behaviors as cheating and swindling of marketplace, making and selling of fake
or substandard goods, violation of intellectual property rights, polluting
activities and those activities that obstruct fair market competition will be
put under rigorous oversight and severely punished. The principle of equity
should be reflected in both power delegation and tightened oversight.
当然,我们在推进简政放权中,也确实遇到了像避重就轻、中间梗阻、“最后一公里”不通畅等问题。开了弓哪还有回头箭?我们只能是一抓到底、一往无前。我们还要继续啃“硬骨头”。
I am
aware that in the course of power delegation there have been such problems as a
perfunctory attitude, midway obstruction or power delegation getting stuck in the
last mile. But how can an arrow shot be turned back? We are determined to see
this reform through. We are prepared to take on tough challenges in pursuing
this reform initiative.
至于说到什么程度满意,那就是要正确地处理好政府和市场的关系。市场经济也是法治经济,我们要努力做到让市场主体“法无禁止即可为”,让政府部门“法无授权不可为”,调动千千万万人的积极性,为中国经济的发展不断地注入新动力。
As to
what extent will we feel satisfied, we will keep up this reform until there is
a proper relationship between the government and the market. The market economy
is one based on the rule of law. We need to ensure that market entities can do
anything which is not prohibited by the law, and government departments cannot
do anything unless it is mandated by the law, so as to mobilize the initiative
of all sides and add new impetus to the growth of the Chinese economy.
美国消费者新闻与商业频道记者:许多投资者认为,今年中国经济的增长会继续放缓,会低于确定的7.5%的增长目标。在不采取更多刺激政策的前提下,您所能接受的最低增速是多少?
CNBC:
Many
investors believe that China’s growth rate this year could be slower and lower
than the official rate of 7.5%. What is the slowest rate of growth you would
find acceptable without stimulating the economy?
李克强:我刚才讲了,一些关于中国经济偏悲观的报道我看到了,也注意了。去年我们在并没有采取短期刺激政策的情况下能够实现经济预期目标,为什么今年不可以呢?
Li
Keqiang: As I said before, I am aware of those
pessimistic reports about the Chinese economy. Last year, without taking
additional short-term stimulus measures, we succeeded in meeting the economic
target. Why can’t we do it this year?
当然,我不否认今年可能会有更复杂的因素,我们之所以把经济增长率定在7.5%左右,考虑的还是保就业、惠民生、增加城乡居民收入。我们更注重的是数字背后的民生、增长背后的就业。
There
is no denying that we may encounter a more complex situation this year. We have
set this year’s GDP growth target at around 7.5%. What we have on our mind is
to ensure employment, improve people’s lives and increase urban and rural
incomes. What we care more about is the livelihood of our people behind a GDP
figure and employment behind GDP growth.
这使我想到上个月23号,20国集团财长和央行行长会议发布了一个公报,提出要在现有政策可达到的水平上,把GDP在5年内再提高2个百分点,以增加就业。在我的印象当中,G20这么说可能还是第一次,这表明主要经济体更加看重增长和就业的关系。
On 23
February, the G20 Finance Ministers and Central Governors Meeting issued a
communiqué. It said that the G20 will work to raise its collective GDP by 2%
within five years based on the current trajectory in order to add jobs. As far
as I recall, this is the first time the G20 set such a target. That shows all major
economies value the role of growth in generating jobs.
没有就业就没有收入,也难以增加社会财富。我在基层曾经访问过一些“零就业”家庭,一个家庭没有一个人就业,真是毫无生气,没有希望。现在我们全国每年要新增城镇劳动力就业1000万人以上,还要给600-700万新增的农村劳动力进城务工留有一定的空间,所以要有合理的GDP增速。
Without
a job, there is no source of income and it will be difficult to increase social
wealth. I once visited some zero-employment families. When none of the family
members has a job, the entire family is listless and hopeless. Each year we
need to add over 10 million urban jobs and leave room for about six to seven
million rural migrant workers to come to get employed in cities. Therefore we
need appropriate GDP growth.
我们说GDP增长的预期目标是7.5%左右,左右嘛,就是有弹性的,高一点,低一点,我们是有容忍度的。至于你说可以接受的下限是什么,那就是这个GDP增速必须保证比较充分的就业,使居民收入合理增长。我们不片面追求GDP,但我们还是需要贴近老百姓的GDP,提高质量效益、节能环保的GDP。
We set
the GDP growth target for this year at about 7.5%. This “about” means that
there is a level of flexibility here. You asked me what is the lowest GDP
growth that we can live with. This GDP growth needs to ensure fairly full
employment and realize reasonable increase of people’s income. We are not
preoccupied with GDP growth. The GDP growth we want is one that brings real
benefits to our people, helps raise the quality and efficiency of economic
development and contributes to energy conservation and environmental
protection. |